About the Film

Mieke Vandersall and Alex McNeill

At a time when Christian America is deeply divided over homosexuality and the Bible, there’s a new kind of spiritual leader on the block. Thanks to a recent rule change, lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people can now be ordained in the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A).

But they must be hired first, and attitudes are slow to change. So why would LGBTQ people want to become leaders in a denomination which doesn’t welcome them? And can they turn the “frozen chosen” into a beacon of tolerance?

In pursuit of these answers, “Out of Order” examines the silent rejection at work in the pews of America, and uncovers a surprising story of empowerment. “Out of Order” tells the story of a group of LGBTQ people of faith working to actively change the meaning of “church,” while providing unprecedented access to the secret gay church camp in the rural South where they met.

We believe the film has the power to heal divisions within Christian denominations that have been broken by debates over LGBTQ clergy. We feel the film can help those who have long felt Christianity has abandoned them. In their pursuit of leadership and through their encounters with intolerance, the heroes of this film radiate qualities which arguably make them the authentic heirs of modern Christianity: faith, hope and love.

But “Out of Order” also addresses issues beyond religion, touching on questions of civil rights, equality and courage. It inspires people to tell their own stories.


The documentary ‘Out of Order‘ needs your help. We urgently need to raise funds to complete filming and post production.

Making this film is not easy. We are diving headfirst into one of the biggest divides within the church today, and doing so takes courage. This ambitious and important documentary is a 100% independently funded film. We are appealing to you to bring this story to life.

We need you to be ‘Out of Order’ with us. With your help we can tell these stories and inspire others to stand up. Whatever you can afford to give, we hope that you will join us.

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